The Foresi’s Who are Not Our Cousins

I have promised, more than once, in previous posts to tell you more about our relationship with the Foresi Families.  Today is your lucky day.  We will begin with the Foresi family members that are not our cousins.

Our great grandmother, Venanza Arcangeli, was from a large family.  We are not sure exactly how may siblings that she had, but they (and their descendants) are cousins to la famiglia Sgriccia…that means your 2nd, 3rd and 4th cousins.

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Venanza’s sister Ermenegilda (Emma) was 9 years younger.  She married Ottavio Foresi.  It is their children that are our cousins – but first – let us talk about the “other” Foresi’s that are not related to us.

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(Remember:  the charts are jpegs.  You can right-click on them to save them and enlarge them for easier reading.)

The Foresi Family in Preci/Roccanolfi consisted of at least three brothers:  Ottavio, Renaldo and Enrico.  All three have connections to families in the USA.

Enrico Foresi was the youngest, he never came to the USA, but three of his children did.  His daughter Felicitta (Phyllis) was born in Roccanolfi in 1901.  In 1921 she traveled to Clymer, PA with her husband – Pietro (Peter) Falcucci.  They did not live in Clymer very long – by the 1935 they were living in New Jersey.

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Gravestone in Preci Cemetery

Enrico’s oldest child, Teodoro (Theodore) was born in 1895.  He traveled to Clymer in 1913.  He traveled with 8 other men from Preci – some heading to PA coal mines and the rest to other destinations.  One was his cousin Domenico Arcangeli.  Their contact in Clymer was their cousin Giuseppe Foresi (our cousin).  Theodore lived on Harrison Street in 1920 as a boarder with the Galli or Galls family.  By 1926 he had married Anita Landi.  They had three children:  Elaine, Henry and Gloria.  Unfortunately, Theodore was killed  by a reckless driver in 1933 while he and 19 other miners were walking home from the mine in Mentcle PA.

Enrico’s middle child, Remo (Raymond) was born in 1897.  He traveled to Clymer in 1923 following his brother to the coal mines.  By 1930 Remo had married Margaret and they had at least one son named Antonio.  They moved to Lackawanna, PA.  Remo died in Lake Ariel, PA in 1989.

Bottom line:  The Enrico Foresi family branched out in the USA with family names of Mears, Falucci, Conti, Davis, Ruffner, Short and Santini.  These are NOT our cousins though – close – they are cousins of our cousins.

Ottavio & Enrico had a brother named Renaldo Foresi.  His story and that of his descendants is the most confusing.  Since they are not actually related to us, I have not spent a great deal of time researching this family.  Renaldo was born in about 1871.  He married Maddalena Amici.  They had three children.  The oldest (Vincenzo) was the only one to travel to the USA.

In December 1920, Vincenzo (Vince or sometimes James) sailed to the US and guess where he was headed…Yep… Clymer… to see his cousin Giuseppe Foresi.  By 1930 James was married to Rose Malengo and they had 3 children – Renaldo (John), Madeline and James.  They lived in Pine Twp., PA – a few miles from Clymer.   He died in Indiana County in 1988.

The descendants of Renaldo have branched out into many families of Foresi, Bellando, Platko and Tonelli – to name a few.  Many are still in Indiana county, others have moved to Ohio and New York state.

This part of the story may have seemed a waste of time or perhaps needless, but it is important to understand that the Foresi descendants have intertwined and it has been very difficult to untangle the web.  If you ever meet any of the people mentioned above you will know that they are descendants from Preci, Italy and cousins of our cousins.

Next time the Foresi’s that are related to us….

Family Tree Printouts

Confusing times we are experiencing…if you are staying at home, perhaps with children, and looking for something different to do, we may have a project for you to work on….

You can now print your own copy of the Family Tree which I have worked on for so many years.  The chart is a 20 page PDF file.  You can print the 20 pages and then tape them together.

Well there is one minor prep – you have to trim the right side of 19 out of 20 pages.  I have printed this chart on three different HP printers and I cannot print to the edge of the paper.  A gap is left on all sides.  Refer to the pictures below to see that it is a very narrow gap to trim off.  I use a paper-cutter – a ruler and razor knife would work.  My shaking hands would never be able to cut a straight line with scissors only – though perhaps you have the talent.  Below is before and after trimming.

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Once the edge is trimmed off, lay the trimmed sheet over the next page “to the right” and then I use tape to hold them together.  After I have “connected” all the sheets, I turn the chart over and tape the back of each seam.

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There are two charts available.  The first is the “Descendants of Antonio Sgriccia”  the second one is the “Descendants of Antonio Arcangeli”.  The paternal and the maternal lineages of our famiglia.  If you are a “Sgriccia” then you will be in both charts (why would you read this blog if you were not…).

The “Sgriccia” chart also shows our great-great Uncle Giusto Sgriccia – brother to Ascanio and the first known person named Sgriccia to come to America.  This chart also shows the cousins in the Messi family.  Two sons (Agostino and Domenico) ventured to the USA in the early 1900s.  When they went through the immigration process at Ellis Island they declared that they were going to Penna. to see the Uncle Giusto.  They would be cousins to the “Sgriccia brothers”.  How is the mystery.  My guess is that their mother is sister to Ascanio Sgriccia and that she married a “Messi”.  Someday I hope to prove this – just yesterday I wrote an email to Massimo Messi – he is the current sindaco (mayor) of Preci, Italy – searching for a connection.

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The “Arcangeli” chart, as I mentioned, contains the same central tree of the children and descendants of Ascanio Sgriccia and Venanza Arcangeli (you are one of those).  The chart also has a small group from the Piccioni family  Similar to the Messi family, two sons (Stefano and Petrangelo) ventured off to America to work in the coal mines of Penna.  They claimed to be nephews of Giusto Sgriccia.

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Additionally, this chart shows the connection to our cousins in the Foresi family.  (I need to write a blog on the Foresi family – the connection between us and the paths we have crossed with these third-cousins is remarkable.  Plus the Foresi family is the connection to the Bidoli family also originally from Preci).

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The “Arcangeli” chart is a whopping 27 pages.  The middle 17 pages are essentially a duplicate of “Sgriccia” chart.  I did a “cut & paste” and did not use these pages.  I then used plain paper to fill the gap.  This gives you a manageable chart which is 10 pages long.

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Missing from both charts is the Amici-Corsaro-Guido family.  We know these families are linked to us because of DNA data at ancestry.com.  Exactly how is the question.  The top of that family tree is Alfredo Amici and Teodora Montagni – both born in Preci.  We do not know if the tie is to the Sgriccia or the Arcangeli family.

If you want your very own copy of the tree, send me an email and I will send back both charts.  I am not posting my email address.  If you do not know my email address I am confident you can ask someone near you for it.

I look forward to a barrage of corrections and additions to this information.